I’m happy.
As a Sam!girl, I’m happy because I feel like Sam gets the most focus when he’s separated from Dean. It gives an opportunity for him to finally interact with other characters and have a spotlight on him. Especially if Jensen is directing the premiere, that means it will be a Sam heavy episode. Yes please.
As someone who adores Jared, I am happy that this will give him an opportunity to get more time off to spend with his son. I know that’s what he wanted and I’m sure it was, in part, the motivation for this decision.
As a wincest shipper, I am happy because I needed that codependency highlighted again. I needed something to put the spark back in there after this season. Nothing is more intense, in my opinion, than these boys trying to fight their way back to each other. And we’ll probably get an amazing reunion hug oh god.
So I’m sorry that a lot of other people that have these things in common with me are angry right now and maybe I’m obnoxiously optimistic but yeah, I just feel really good about this and what it will mean for Sam and for the brothers.
Alright, here’s what I don’t get about the criticisms of Dean.
When someone brings up how Castiel has wronged the Winchesters it is met immediately with comments about how he was only trying to save the world. I completely agree with that. Castiel’s mistakes came from a place of wanting to do good, just like Sam’s did. (As Sam pointed out himself.)
But it seems like a lot of the same people who will quickly come to Castiel’s defense are the same to call Dean an ‘asshole’ for expecting too much from Cas. But Dean is not asking Castiel for a back rub, okay? He isn’t asking Cas to wipe his ass or make his bed. He’s asking him to help save the world. For Dean this is not about Castiel doing his will and being his slave. He is trying to save all of humanity from horrific deaths at the hands of the leviathans.
So I don’t get why you can erase every mistake Castiel made and take away all accountability for his actions based on his overall intentions but then turn around and call Dean selfish for expecting Castiel to help. If trying to save the world is a valid excuse for killing hundreds of people and breaking Sam’s wall as emotional blackmail, why can’t it be a valid excuse for acting like an insensitive prick? Why can’t you be sympathetic and understanding and forgiving of that too?
The fact that people are comparing the ‘Sorry’ scene to domestic abuse is just…sickening. I have dealt with domestic abuse, it’s a subject that hits close to home and triggers a lot of bad memories and feelings for me. That scene? Was not domestic abuse. It wasn’t abuse of any kind. Cas is not a terrified victim, okay? Stop treating him like a child. He could break Dean’s neck with a flick of the wrist. When Dean threw that game Cas was not afraid. He was not made to feel powerless or intimidated or controlled or humiliated. He hung his head in sadness because he couldn’t give Dean the answers he wanted and Dean was upset. Being angry with someone, justified or unjustified, does not translate to abuse.
If you’re going to start talking about abuse in the context of this relationship, which is really not comparable to any other relationship you know of in real life, then why aren’t you calling the scene in 5x18 where Cas beats the shit out of Dean domestic abuse? Probably because you understand that this is a different world with different circumstances. Cas isn’t human, Dean is a hunter. They’re soldiers and they communicate with violence. But I hardly think that Dean throwing a fucking board game on the floor can constitute as domestic fucking abuse.
I just….do you have any fucking idea what it feels like when people compare that scene to some of the most traumatizing moments of your life? As if the horror that you or people you love have suffered is anything like this? Jfc.
Maybe it made you sad for Cas. I know it made me sad for him, made me hurt to see him like that and to see him and Dean communicating like that. But that doesn’t make it abuse, okay? That isn’t a term you should throw around so lightly.
“The trenchcoat thing was just fanservice.”
Mmm yes, just go on ignoring the fact that taking the coat was Jensen’s idea because he, the man who is Dean and has known him in every way for the better part of a decade, thought it was what Dean would have done.
If calling something fanservice makes you feel better about the fact that the writers and actors believe Dean cares about Cas, go for it. Really. Go nuts.
WOW, saw this opinion on my dash. Gonna stop you right there, haters.
Lets not forget that Sam’s wall was crumbling already. Those memories were already in him and they were coming back, slowly but surely. That wall was a time bomb, it was coming down one way or another. That is absolutely NOT a defense of what Cas did. What he did to Sam was wrong. But Sam’s memories and the Lucifer hallucinations that came with them are not from Cas, they were from hell and they were already in Sam just waiting to come out.
And then Cas gave up his life to save Sam from them. He didn’t die for him because he won’t die like that. He’ll suffer forever. He knew that would happen and he did it for Sam, who would have died and gone to heaven. He literally just subjected himself to an eternity of torture for Sam’s sake.
And lets not forget that Sam would still be in hell being tortured forever by the actual Lucifier if Cas hadn’t brought him out. He did a half assed job of it, but he’s still the one who rescued Sam. He brought Sam back and then took on all his horrific memories so that Sam would be okay and so Dean would have his brother.
Sam Winchester jumped into hell to save the world, and now Cas is putting himself through hell so Sam can live. So step the fuck back before you start acting like this was just Cas sweeping up his own mess. This was so much more than that.
Putting this under a read more for the sake of people who do love Cas/Bal. :3
I’m so sorry this took forever to answer because tumblr ate my original response! I hope you don’t mind that I reply publicly this time. I’ve been asked the same question before so I’d like it on my blog. I came up with these answers with Kelsey because she’s a well spoken and smart and just generally has the same opinions on Cas and Canon that I do. Everything said here does not necessarily reflect her POV but she was a big help. :) I S2G I TRIED to keep this short but I’m me so. yup.
So these are the three reasons I want Castiel to be back on Supernatural:
Well when it first happened I let out a cry of absolute horror. I remember grabbing onto my knees and kind of rocking back and forth. I think I hit my head off a wall at some point. I was just…in shock? Because I felt like it was a turning point and a place Cas could not come back from. It was the most horrible thing Supernatural could do to me as a Sam!girl and as a Cas fan.
As a Sassy shipper that event was painful but it definitely didn’t stop me from shipping it. Especially when considering the aftermath. The thing is that I don’t like my ships to be fluffy romances where everyone is sugary sweet to each other and the only conflict being empty and contrived. If I liked things like that I would not watch Supernatural, I would just be a Glee blog and ship Klaine. But no, I like the agony and betrayal and anger. It makes you feel something.
And for people to go through things so rough and still come out caring about each other, which Sam and Cas clearly did, now THAT is a ship I can get behind. I’m not saying it’s a healthy relationship but I find those boring. No ships in spn are particularly healthy. Sassy has always been looked at in a more mellow or silly way and I think what happened between them with the wall breaking and the aftermath took it to a higher level where it can be taken more seriously, actually.
Sam compared what he had gone through to what Cas was going through. He still felt an affection for him even after he had hurt him. He still believed Cas was reachable and redeemable in the same way I didn’t let myself hope he could be. How could I stop shipping that?!
Also, they have the best size difference porn and the shippers are hilarious and make beautiful things like this:
